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Isis. so the idea that you're going to fight isis by supporting the assad regime is crazy. >> so what does the international community think about it? the united states is against it. what does the international community think about it? >> i don't think putin's idea is going to get broad traction. and i don't think putin himself plans to have a deepen gaugement in syria. the russian economy is a mess. they don't want to spend a lot of money in syria. >> rue annie was therouhani was iran. who is the bigger enemy right now, russia? putin? rouhani? >> i think russia is a broad challenge to our i...

Those in dg-7 last night wanted him to do less. >> thank you for joining us. joining me, former uk member of parliament, cameron's conservative party, thank you for being here there thank you for having me. >> tell us about cameron's position when it comes to rub shah. there's a reliance on russian energy. lots of russian money in london. does he really stand shoulder to shoulder with the president when it comes to these sanctions. >> he's half and half shoulder with the president. britain has just discovered an enormous amount of gas reserves, fracking gas reserves around the south of england...

Serious. >> what about the potential there are calls of arming ukraine. so far we've sent mres and he will in the and some calls on capitol hill to do even more than that. >> i think that's absolutely the right thing to do, but i think that's a tactical response. i don't think putin is really looking for a military confrontation here. as leland just say, there's a referendum coming up in a couple of weeks in the eastern provinces. also next month you've got presidential elections countrywide in ukraine. i think putin's real objective is either to have a candidate favorable to russia win those ...

Into this situation. anything that would be too provocative. i think it was interesting that what we saw, we've been seeing this incremental moves and sanctions. it's not lost on people out there that this is kind of a quandary. it's easy to say why don't we put people there in terms of troops there, but what would really be the point of that, especially when putin has been making these outrageous moves? wouldn't that possibly escalate the situation even further? as you mentioned, it's a very unpopular move. so then what do you do? what the u.s. has decided are sanctions basically. we've been ...

Reasonable preventative deployment of european and american troops in the ukraine wouldn't be seen by putin as a sign of deterrence and a sign of strength. instead what we show is weakness. we show vacillation, and the first thing we do is take, quote, the military option off the table. >> so diplomacy is still in the works so far. secretary of state john kerry meet with representatives from the ukraine and the soviet union. not many experts think much will come from that meeting. >> reporter: and there's talk about getting into some sort of standoff or conflict with russia. but there's been l...