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Push back. i mean, as i mentioned to your colleague from alabama, there were some very critical things that ambassador taylor said, we saw his transcript. somehow that leaked out with no problem. all the negative stuff leaks out surprisingly from mr. schiff's group, whatever you call it, but the pushback doesn't leak out. and it looks like an attempt by the democrats to get that out and not the exonerating stuff. >> i'm not sure. first of all, it's not mr. schiff's group it's a committee of the-- >> that's not what the republicans say. if it's bipartisan, then they don't. >> it's in the group....

For example, of ambassador taylor, but we didn't hear any push back, we didn't hear any cross examination. >> well, that was ambassador taylor's statement. that information and all the opportunity to go deep into this information in a public fashion absolutely will happen. i don't think there's much doubt about that. >> when will it happen? do you have any idea? and originally wrap before thanksgiving? that doesn't look like that now? >> i personally don't know, i don't know the precise timing and i don't know that it will happen before thanksgiving, but i have been advocating that we get to t...

Secret hearings, that was leaked out as pretty tough stuff from the ambassador suggesting there was quid pro quo. you suggest even if there was, might not be illegal. >> i thought from the beginning the focus on quid pro quo was misguided, and involves quid pro quo and that has a sinister connotation because it is a latin phrase we here in connection with bribery cases but all it means is this for that. all commerce is exchange and it is expected there is exchange on both sides. the context is impeachment, not a criminal prosecution. congress is not under

What they want which is collusion. they double down on ukraine. look at the trajectory hear the fact that you have millions of americans who placed their faith in donald trump, do democrats doing things behind closed doors not realizing it is not believable. you end up with nancy pelosi saying no person is be have -- above the law. a high crime or misdemeanor suggesting joe biden be held to the same standard and when you look at it that way it will be a difficult story. david: not to say something isn't coming out of the testimony that is interesting. ambassador taylor, some of this was very i...

That i think is absolutely right, they are absolutely relevant people. the reason i tell you what brennan had to say about this is congress thought these guys were relevant enough that they brought them into testify. why wouldn't for prosecutor looking at this in a comprehensive way and focusing on the intelligence agency seems obvious that these guys would be important witnesses at the least. >> i want to turn to the impeachment inquiry. you wouldn't call it an official impeachment inquiry because they haven't been voted on but in addition to having a wonderful book you have a wonderful colum...