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Absentee owners. is that all that's going to be left in new york. >> clayton: yes. new york -- there was always something that brought it back. but once you fill it with the corporate world, it's never going back. so we turned a corner that we will never go back again. so it's over. >> anthony: it's over. >> clayton: it's over.
But i can, it was wrong and i'm glad the president recanted. >> was it racist? >> yes, it is racist, not founded in any kind of facts or whatever. it was a terrible moment for us and i'm glad it's over. >> isn't that the problem though, when people say, with nepotism, as the senior adviser to the president of the united states and be honest with people about aspects of this administration and his boss who he is an adviser to? >> look, i feel the same way about him that i felt when we used to go around and around about why doesn't sarah sanders say this, that or the other. to expect a white hou...
Frankly this whole thing cost us a chance to beat barack obama in 2012 because we didn't seem like serious people who were trafficking in serious ideas. >> okay, scott, two things -- >> so my view is he can't say it, but i can. it was wrong, and i'm glad the president recanted. >> and was it racist? >> yes, it is racist. >> okay, so let me ask you this then -- >> it was not in any kind of facts or whatever. it was a terrible moment for us and i'm glad it's over. >> but isn't that a problem when people say i can't believe he's appointing his daughter to this or son to that. isn't that the oppon...
And we talked about this, should we reveal it, should we confirm it. what's the obligation now? then ben bradlee stepped in and said it's out, it's over, you need to confirm it. and so we did. >> felt was the number two man at the fbi when he says he became the source to help reveal watergate, the scandal that helped bring down richard nixon. >> my dad, i know him so well, and he's a great man. he's so kind. he's so attentive to other people and loving. and we're all so proud of him. not only for his role in history but for that, for the character that he has, the person that he is. >> clearly...
>> reporter: but is he innocent? investigator mike sechez. >> i believe in my heart and soul that steve democker killed carol kennedy. >> reporter: he thinks often, he said, about the daughters about the impact on them. >> while my heart goes out to them, you know, you have to recognize that this is all because of one man's actions. >> reporter: carol's friend, katherine. >> i never wanted to believe that steve was capable of doing this. and the jury has made their decision. i accept their decision. i agree with their decision. >> i'm so glad it's over. i'm so relieved. because so many of us h...