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Tahrir square and taken to a military detainment center. some of them, including these women, were subjected to forced virginity tests upon threat of electrocution from egyptian soldiers. these are stunning allegations of human rights abuses that the spokesman for the military and for egypt's ruling military council are denying. sanjay? >> it's hard to hear and fouad, i know it's not been that much time obviously since the revolution in egypt. but does this surprise you what ivan sa r saying first of all, and what are you i do are going to be the biggest challenges for egypt? >> i think ivan h...

Heritage, but that was before 1952. i think egyptians have the best chance in the arab world as a whole for making that transition to a democratic future. it's a culture with a legal framework, and i think we saw the best of egypt in tahrir. we will see some deviation from that. men are not angels. but on balance i still vote for the egyptian revolution that it will bring egyptians a measure of relief and a measure of progress. >> and that brings us straight to tunisia. ivan, despite the situation in egypt, you seem to draw a different sort of comparison in tunisia, the other post revolution c...

And i spoke with one woman, as well. a 20-year-old hairdresser who was detained along with more than 100 others on march 9. according to amnesty international, at least 17 women were detained in egypt's famous tahrir scare and taken to a military detainment center. some of them, including these women, were subjected to forced virginity tests upon threat of electrocution from egyptian soldiers. these are stunning allegations of human rights abuses that the spokesman for the military and for egypt's ruling military council are denying. sanjay? >> it's hard to hear and fouad, i know it's not been...