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To various officials in the white house, variable officials in the state department and to dismiss this as a political hack seems to me to be an effort by the president's defenders to try to make something -- to make nothing out of something, and there is something here. >> so several of the president's allies have tried to pivot the conversation back to joe biden and his son, but it's worth noting president trump's daughter ivanka works at the white house. her husband jared kushner also works at the white house. rudy giuliani's son andrew works at the white house in the office of liaison, att...

Things where he just says what he wants to say. >> sure, because he's surrounded by the thought that he believes in, he's surrounded by people who say what he wants to hear. i was there last summer, the protests looked bigger than today. >> much bigger. >> and he's not the first american president to be pr protested. i was there with president bush during the height of the iraq war. he was protested. most presidents simply ignore and don't talk about it. but president trump has to quarrel with the fact that we can see with our own eyes. and president trump's adult children also made the trip, ...