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Joining our discussion now is john sandweg, former acting director of immigration and customs enforcement under president obama. john, i want to get your reaction to what the president said tonight, especially what he said about the criminal element at the southern border. >> well, obviously, a lot to cover here. i think the president, unfortunately, engaged in a number of real distortions about what's going on at our southern border. our border's never been more secure. you know, just 15 years ago, we had over a million people being arrested with only 5,000 border patrol agents there to stop ...

Would later find out that, in fact, she wrote this in combination working in coordination with the russian government and the russian general prosecutor. so it certainly now is a consistent portrait we're getting of veselnitskaya that that meeting at trump tower, work on the magnitsky act, this is being done on part of her work on behalf of the russian government and that of course raises the stakes for that meeting in trump tower. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. and when we come back, a former director of immigration customs enfo...

O'donnell for thehi next hour he onfo msnbc. it might help. >> rachel, if you need more time to talk about -- >> i'm good. >> -- the president who said nothing tonight -- >> yeah, i'm good. >> okay. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you very much, rachel. appreciate it. well, in this hour, we have important analysis and necessary fact correction and checking of thed president's address from t oval office tonight. and even though it was empty in terms of any new comments by the president or any news made by the bypresident, it was an extraordinary event in and of itself and it must be analyzed i...

And that's going to be the fascinating question as you and ron were just saying when we see if there is a resolution, this particular moment. will there be republican politicians who will realize that, in fact, the fox news world in which so much of the right wing lives is not, in fact, where the country is in 2018? 19. >> jon meacham, ron klain, thank you both for joining us. really appreciate it. and when we come back we'll be joined by a former acting director of immigration and customs enforcement. we'll get his reaction to what the president had to say tonight.