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Settle down, you are not going anywhere. now we're going to turn our attention back to problem number one, which is the islamic state. >> i heard some politicians, particularly more republicans who want to see regime change and want much more of an activist u.s. policy in syria say, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. you can try to push assad and also fight isis at the same time. can -- if assad -- there's the concern about a power vacuum if assad is taken out of power one way or another. what role isis then plays in the country. >> yeah. that's an ideal solution. that's the one i favo...

Have firsthand knowledge of what it's like on the ground. mikey, what do you say to that? is there anyone who can bring these groups together in a democratic government or is some sort of divided iraq inevitable? >> i was there in 2003 across the border with the u.s. marines and the brits coming in from the south from q-8. the important thing about iraq in terms of the way we've taken conflict into the future is it was the comprehensive approach. it was sinner ja ener jiegz wha wanted to achieve. so the military would never take an action unless it was for a desired effect that the state depar...