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And the president is not doing that. he is knocking every single norm that i would argue that every other president before him would have adhered to, which is fundamentally problematic. >> and last word, ja meal, is this an old playbook, because this is a january memo, and things change so quickly here, but it is right in line of what we have heard in the last week? >> right. and speaking with what shermichael is saying, viewing it as political document and not a legal memo, a lot of the voters wanted this. they wanted this kind of authoritarianism, and they wanted this kind of the power grab ...

Strategic communiqcator of hillary for america, and we have rolling stone senior writer ja meal smith. ja meal, i want to start with you on this. as he intimates here the why in terms of this letter coming out? this 20 pages, but it might be those forces that are on his side? might bit that him from the white house saying, yeah, go ahead >> itt might have been his own legal team leaking it for all we know. the who of the leaking is a distraction from what is actually in the memo, and what is in the memo is devastating to their own cause. unless you are looking at it from the standpoint of poli...

Low si and chuck schumer not necessarily to the chairman of the dnc. and jamel, i'm fascinated that the mtv guy is leaning towards the establishment. showing you how far the tv has gone. >> you have the wrong impression. it is not leaning towards the establishment, but the democratic party is larger than bernie sanders' wing of the party that has created so much quote, up quote energy a., and there is energy on the other side, too. >> and as somebody who is a close observer of this, ja meal or anybody, and is that more than bernie sanders versus the wing versus the establishment wing or bernie...