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The former president in office. and so, what you are looking at, conspiratorial activity, you are looking at several individuals that were doing different things but for one purpose. and in layman's terms, that is sort of the essence of what a rico charge is. >> i want to bring ari back in here now. ari, you know, we know that specifically, rudy giuliani was named as a target in this investigation. but there could potentially be others. what should we be looking for as we wait in anticipation of what he grand jury says? >> it's a great question, symone. as you pointed out, we have been followi...

Rules compared to many other jurisdictions. >> yeah, and, tamar hallerman, doing reporting for us from inside the courtroom, so many eyes there. thank you for helping on the phone and making time and your reporting position today. we might call on you again. >> anytime. >> absolutely. if you are watching here, we are approaching the half hour mark, 8:30 on the east coast. we have reports that the grand jury in fulton county, georgia has begun voting. again, we don't know how long that takes and what their vote will be. but based on all the information we have, we do expect to bring you that ne...