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Together a set of facts that meets the elements of crime? in other words, let's not overreach, but the american people are also counting on us to say where we saw crimes based on the hearings, where we've laid out evidence to them, i think there are numbers of people in this country who would be sorely disappointed at the generous ex committee did it make those referrals. >> right, it's that appetite, the desire to see something happen, i also want to ask you this week's jack summit subpoenaed officials in arizona, michigan and wisconsin i wonder what that tells you about the scope of his inve...

Big lie of stolen election the attack on the capitol would never have happened. back with me to discuss consequences lisa rubin and david jolly. lisa, we talked -- first of all, if i were a member of the committee who were not a lawyer i would have such fomo about tomorrow and the fact -- they are all meeting, your sense of what it is they are batting around in that group? what are the questions? >> the questions for them are, how credibly can we put together a set of facts that meets the elements of crime? in other words, let's not overreach, but the american people are also counting on us to...