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What actual recourse democrats have at this point. short of the sergeant in arms handcuffing these folks and holding them in contempt or throwing them in jail, what can they do? >> it's a court fight. and i expect congressman nadler to go to court and to litigate, to get a court order requiring don mcgahn to appear. don mcgahn is a lawyer. he's an officer of the court. he will comply with a court order. when he goes into congress and testifies, however, i don't think he's going to be as explosive as john dean. remember, john dean in watergate was out to save the country. i think don mcgahn is ...

Federal prosecutors who signed on to the letter that noted if any other defendant in america had been presented with the similar set of facts, they would have been indicted. but we have, as your viewers know, this long-standing opinion at the highest level of the justice department that says a president and a president alone can not be indicted. so he's dead on, and that is the message that the mueller report was telegraphing, that this was indictable conduct. the proper forum for that is the house judiciary committee which should consider it as impeachment conduct. >> let me ask you, jack, ab...

Lonely as possible in this party of president trump. >> thank you. let's talk about this with jack weisz, former federal prosecutor from los angeles. good to have you. it was a really important and interesting twitter thread over the weekend here. on the merits here, and of course, the attacks on amash have been political, not on the argument that he was making, the legal case he was making. i'm just interested in what you think happens to amash's principle conclusions. that's what he's laying out here. to make them go from a blip to a game changer or is that just not going to happen? >> well,...

They have to, we'll get a chance to flesh that out. >> let's hope so. i think americans have a right to ask questions of the proskurpts on this through their elected representatives. jack, thanks so much for coming on. >> let's talk about this and more with democratic congressman lloyd doggett. he sits on the house ways and means committee. thank you for taking the time this monday morning. >> great to join you. >> let's begin with taxes, because this is key given your position on the committee. so the chairman of your committee, richard neal, said just on friday that he doesn't really see any...

Say anyone can tell you what happened to the von trapp family, but when you geinto court and put on a trial, you have to put on the sound of music. i'm interested to seeing if the house takes it to the next step and puts on an impeachment proceeding, that will televise everything, make it more compelling. that will make it theater. i think more people will pay attention than justin, who was the only guy who read the book, it seems. >> let's for a moment, if we can, jack, tune out the presidential response to amash. republican party, ronna mcdaniel, et cetera, and get at his essential argument....