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Leadership by a deputy not going into -- these deputies received the training they needed -- >> maybe you measure somebody's leadership by whether or not they protect the community. in this case you've listed 23 incidents before the shooting involving the shooter and still nothing was done to keep guns out of his hands, to make sure that the school was protected to make sure you were keeping an eye on him. your deputy failed. i don't know how you can sit there and claim amazing leadership. >> jake, on 16 of those cases, our deputies did everything right. our deputies have done amazing things. ...

Lives? yes, i believe that. but as far as anything else done at this point, i can't say that. >> all right, that interview of scott israel, the sheriff of broward county this morning with jake althoutapper. lots to talk about here. james guliano is with me now. james, let's talk about the police response to this shooting. israel says as far as he knew, there was one officer there. unclear why he said in his interview with jake that he didn't know why that officer didn't go in. what strikes you with this interview? >> first of aushlll, fred, kudo jake tapper. i watched that full interview this ...