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The kurds in the lurch is going to be that if i'm an estonian and i'm worried about russians or i'm a south korean and i'm worried about the north koreans or i'm an afghani and i'm worried about a sudden pullout from afghanistan, we have devalued the currency of our word by what we've done. our troops are not mercenaries. they are there for american security first and foremost. and we have reduced american security with the policies we've seen over the last several days. >> admiral james, admiral, thank you very much. >> thanks, katy. >> and coming up, house democrats gearing up for a key witn...

>> richard engel in northern syria. richard thank you very much. with me now is admiral james devritas. now, nbc chief international security and diplomacy expert. admiral, it's great to have you. i just want to ask you what's the motivation here? the president pulled troops out of the northern syria border because he said he wants to bring them home. nbc news reporters and producers saw troops crossing over the border into iraq to fight isis there. why move them from northern syria to iraq? it looks like from the outside that this was -- can we say this was donald trump trying to please erdog...

Safely after this. i want to bring in admiral james devritas, supreme allied commander at nato, among other titles and other travels in his three decades. admiral, first of all, your reaction to the action tonight as you understand the components of it. >> i think it is a proportion al response, brian, and i think it kind of ups the game from the tomahawk strikes of a year ago, which really were just a signal. i think this does go after actual capability that we see on the ground. we're going after that chemical weapons kill chain that kind of runs from research to production to storage to tra...