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What is going on in this country right now, james? >> what is fascinating is if we asked them, which we rarely did, if they thought about national politics, what they thought about barack obama five years ago or about the election, they would essentially group themselves into the familiar answers that one hears on tv all the time. but if you didn't ask them that, if you asked them what is happening in this town, what is happening in san bernardino, california, most people felt the movement of their towns was forward rather than backward. the part of the united states they experienced directly ...

Struggle with cancer. to criticize him seems is there no sense of decency. >> thank you for answering that. so let's move on now because for the past five years you and your wife deborah have been traveling across america in a single engine prop airplane, researching your book and speaking to all kind of americans. what did people tell you about what is going on in this country right now, james? >> what is fascinating is if we asked them, which we rarely did, what they thought about national politic, did they like barack obama five years ago or hillary clinton or donald trump during the electi...

National correspondent of "the atlantic" and coauthor of the new book "our towns." the 100,000 mile journey into the heart of america which is fascinating. there's a small prop plane involved and we will talk about that. we will talk about your book in a second. welcome, by the way. let's start with some of the comments from today. this is senator marco rubio. he was asked about the remarks made by white house staffer kelly sadler about senator john mccain and why there hasn't been a public apology for them. watch this. >> certainly the -- the comments that were made if in fact they were made,...

Most americans believe we are living in a divided society, and if we look at the chaos and gridlock in washington, it is easy to see why. a new book paints a different picture. at least when it comes to americans in their hometowns and cities. i want to bring in james fallas, national correspondent of "the atlantic" and co-author with his wife deborah, of the new book "our towns." the 100,000-mile journey into the heart of america which is fascinating. there's a small prop plane involved and we will talk about that. we will talk about your book in a second. welcome, by the way. let's start wit...

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