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Campaign. biden isn't just any regular citizen. he is the top democrat contender that's going to be running against trump. this is in the midst of a presidential campaign. that is criminal behavior. abuse of power by the president of the united states is criminal behavior. and we know now that the whistle-blower's complaint matches the transcript and we know because of what came out today -- >> yeah. >> -- that it is not hearsay, that he had firsthand -- >> exactly. >> -- knowledge. >> i'm out of time, but to be continued. >> let me make a point there. >> no, we're -- i got to -- i got to go. ...

Urging -- >> i can also tell you -- okay, listen, i didn't interrupt you, so let me just respond without you interrupting me. >> sorry. my apologies. >> here's the criminality. here's the criminality i see. the criminality i see is asking a foreign government for something of value for a campaign. biden isn't just any regular citizen. he is the top democrat contender that's going to be running against trump. this is in the midst of a presidential campaign. that is criminal behavior. abuse of power by the president of the united states is criminal behavior. and we know now that the whistle-blow...

President's thinking and the way he works. david served as dhs spokesman under president trump and former white house attorney james schultz is a cnn legal commentator. david, you worked for this administration and president. would it surprise you if the president did in fact offer to pardon people who broke the wall, broke the law i should say in order to get his wall built? >> no, it wouldn't surprise me. and again, i think the issue here is all the confusion after the fact. you know, the question is was the president joking about pardoning people? he joking about breaking the law? he joking...

Paint the wall black. the wall is to be painted black and he also wants it to be spiked on top with sharp points, which he thinks will be more of a deterrent to people who might consider trying to climb it. >> he has reasons for that. his own theories but the fact of the matter is by making those changes or additions, it adds extra cost to reduce the total number of mileage. >> that's correct. the cost of painting for example 175 miles of barriers is going to be as much as $133 million according to the government's own calculations and that is going to reduce the amount of fencing that they wi...

Inspector general report about comey, accurately. which shows, i think, that you have a sense that the inspector general is reputable. there is an inspector general investigation already going on. why does there need to be this other one with the attorney general, whose record on what he chooses to tell publicly and what he doesn't is certainly, at least, under question? >> it's under question by congress, because he didn't release 6e information -- >> why does there need to be another report? >> and let's get straight there, there's not a lawyer in his right mind who thinks it's good to relea...