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I think like many republicans, he is shocked this is the summer of donald trump. i don't think he thinks he's going to be the nominee. on the other hand, dick cheney is very disciplined. he is not going to get into the donald trump discussion. he just does not want to go there. >> is there anyone you think he might endorse? >> he says that there are a number of people in the field. i think it's interesting that he is not with jeb bush. if i had to guess, i think the person who on national security issues, which is what he's most interested in, focused on, i'd say marco rubio is the guy he's cl...

Co-authored with his daughter liz. jamie sat down recently with the cheneys. it's her first interview for cnn. >> thank you for joining us. a great addition to cnn. >> thank you. >> this is a fascinating interview. >> dick cheney, conservative hero to some people, darth vader to others. he was provocative, he is blunt. he goes -- we talked about everything from hillary clinton's e-mails. he is very harsh about that. we talked about the wild presidential campaign and donald trump and the whole republican field. but we started the interview with what he really thinks about the man he likes to go...

Anyone. but who do you think is the best person to turn things around? >> well, we have not endorsed anybody and don't plan to today, jamie. >> reporter: i have to try. >> you have to. it's a legitimate question. but our concern really is the policy, the issues, the importance of having national security front and center in connection with the campaign. >> reporter: when you look at the republican field, are you confident that everyone out there could get the job done? >> i wouldn't go that far. but i think it's a good field. >> reporter: you want to tell me who you wouldn't be comfortable sup...

>> one of the reasons we got osama bin laden is because of the enhanced interrogation program that we put in place and that he canceled. the drone program that he's used effectively was invented by george w. bush. >> reporter: liz, in the book you write that he wants to diminish america. >> he's done everything within his power to diminish us. he seems to think, for example, if he cuts our nuclear arsenal, he's said that will help us have the credibility to tell the iranians or the north koreans that they should limit their own nuclear ambitions. it's fantasy, it's dangerous and it's wrong. an...