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No one should be surprised that spontaneously his -- you know, his idea was, well, violence on all sides. on all sides. but then when he's given these -- oh, i can't finish my thought. it's just so frustrating, and i feel so badly for this girl's family and the loss of someone that was really trying to do something good and right. and, yeah. >> jamil, what the president said today, we've heard enough of it, and i don't want to give it more prominence than what heather's mother has to say. but what he said sounded like the standard script that republican speechwriters would have written for a r...

>> i'm telling you, i just -- seeing her mom and realizing this is a girl that on saturday morning was alive and got mowed down and killed, and i have to also say, lawrence, you know, if this was a group of black lives matter, just forget about it. if it was a group of black people that showed up for a protest wearing riot gear and carrying assault weapons and bats and whatnot, i think the police would have been swarming the place. nothing like this would have ever happened. that it was a group of angry, evil people of a different complexion just makes it that much more tragic. this did not ha...

Non-american, as this, you know -- challenged his patriotism and his heritage, as quickly as he did that, he wouldn't, when it really needed to, say white supremacy, the kkk, nazis, no place in this country. i don't accept them. i don't support -- but he can't say that because they've been part of his base. i'm -- i'm sort of at a loss frankly. >> i think we all are. jamil smith, this is a president whose father was arrested at a klan rally. he's the only president who has that distinction, and no one working in the trump administration took a look at what he had written to say on saturday and...

Jamil smith, this is a president whose father was arrested at a klan rally. he's the only president who has that distinction, and no one working in the trump administration took a look at what he had written to say on saturday and said, this isn't good enough, especially for this president. >> well, i mean here's the thing. even if he had come out with the strongest condemnation of the terroristic acts in charlottesville, he would have no credibility on the issue of race. this is a person who placed the ad in may of 1989 condemning five innocent black and hispanic teenagers of rape. he was con...

And jamil smith. welcome to you both. >> hi. >> thanks for having me on. >> absolutely. taylor, i want to start with you because you came to our attention as one of those people out there that a lot of folks are curious about. you like bernie sanders but you're with trump. starting with this sort of sur if you have fi cur if you have fall, i think it comes down do matter of perm taste. i'm concerned we're making national headline of off handed headlines in a golfing magazine. >> there's a certain standard that comes up with other presidents, barack obama is one but more than barack ama have be...