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None of it matters anymore. you can't explain this away. you can't. it is a racist photo, regardless like i said before, regardless if he's in it or not. it's a horrific photo. he is a democrat who is now the governor of the commonwealth of virginia. we cannot have this. he needs to move on. he needs to go. it's -- just think about it, joy, we have the most diverse primary in -- right now in the presidential 2020 that's coming up. we just heard from julian castro who is a latino candidate clearly in this primary. we can't have this. we can't have this from this governor at all from a democrat ...

Was a birther and won and there is a challenge that is bigger than northam? >> oh, you're absolutely right. the only thing i would add is in order to take on those challenges the party with the most diverse base has to step out in front. >> right. >> take the moral authority and show that we will not tolerate -- we can't call trump out on charlottesville if they're able to do the both sides -- >> we're expecting ralph northam to speak. we thought he was going to speak already. we'll keep waiting for it and won't let any of these people go too far away because we me a need you back. mark thomps...

Violence against black bodies, against black people. but you make the point, jamill smith, we don't talk about people calling 911 on black people for nothing. >> joy, you listen to that tape, and i mentioned in my pete in the root, it's like the cops are their racism valets. these black people are making me uncomfortable. do something about it. the fact she can engage in that kind of behavior consistently, these are the gentleman who end up having to deal with the consequences is another part of the discussion we need to have. that could be called malicious prosecution. you could potentially c...

Jamill smith. he said, this is a movie about what it means to be black and america, africa and the world. rather than dodge complicate d about race and identity, a film grapples head-on with the issues affected modern-day black life. >> i agree with that what is so great about this movie, we are living in a time where black skin and black bodies are literally targets in america. this narrative.