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florida governor ron desantis abruptly removed a twice elected democratic prosecutor just last year. why? because he refused to go after people who seek and provide abortions or provide gender affirming care to transgender people. andrew warren sued desantis, but now a federal judge has dismissed that lawsuit, saying his action of the governor did violate the first amendment and florida's constitution, but as a federal judge, he couldn't rule against a state official based only on the violation of state law. and in the wake of that ruling today, andrew warren joins me now. andrew, th...

Recognition of a particular policy position and figured out the rest later. how often do we hear about that on capitol hill? but what's your reaction? >> well, i just think that, again, i feel like the process was just very poorly done. frankly this should be adjudicated in the laws. i'm not a lawyer, but that seems to be the appropriate venue for this kind of thing. this is sort of a societal problem that we're facing right now. it feels like in many circumstances that these sorts of policies, not just this one but other ones, are sort of jamming down on a very political and tribal level. and...