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Of the jaramillo clan. as the months passed, the father spent more and more days in eugene tending to rental properties while david remained at the ranch with the wife lueene and the couple's grandchildren. >> it was a very gradual thing that things began to change. because he became more in control and jaime was kind of just being less. >> pushed out, is that the way you saw it? >> and my husband and i, we were both aware of it. we talked about it between us. we didn't talk to jaime and lueene or anybody else. but we talked about it. this was something happening that we felt very sad to see h...

He was traumatized by driving. >> did he ever get on a plane? >> no, he took the train. >> did he have a bank account? >> no bank account. he had cash, a lot of cash. >> cash david told them, from a computer consulting business he was able to run from his room in florence. and there was one more thing. >> he never had any pictures of his wife and daughters. there just was something that just didn't ring true to me. but i didn't talk about it to anybody. i didn't want to put doubt in their minds because i didn't have anything to go on other than what he said. we took him at face value. >> after...