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Either scenario is damning for this white house. i think there's likely there's a double standard. nobody should normalize the level of lying coming out of this white house. in any other white house, someone with this breach of trust likely wouldn't have a job anywhere. >> senator, i know you have a lot of suspicions, but what should he be fired for? >> michael flynn was fired because he was compromised in the sense that he had met with the russian government. he had not disclosed that to his superiors, and thus, he could be in a position top corrupted. it appears the same thing occurred here....

That meeting with jared kushner. take a listen. very good to see you. you're the subject of intense scrutiny in america because of your meeting with donald trump's son-in-law, jared kushr. >> no comments about that. >> reporter: the thing is -- >> sorry. >> reporter: there is some confusion of what happened. were you talking about business or politics? >> sorry -- >> reporter: have you been contacted by the fbi or would you be prepared to talk to them? i'm sorry. mr. gorkov, it's just a question about what happened in the meeting. >> please, please. >> reporter: with it a political meeting or ...

Of people around him, many of them related to him. and he's translating that to the white house. i mean as robert said a few minutes ago, he's also surrounded by a ring of foreign policy hawks, and that's new to him. and we now have those two circles sometimes competing with one another, and in the case of whether or not to launch a strike in syria, apparently agreeing. ivanka, according to her brother, for perhaps different reasons, but agreeing noneeless that american credibility was on the line, that the united states had to do something. and trump clearly listened to his daughter and to th...

He hasuickly become a great source of power when it comes to foreign policy in this white house. even sent him to iraq. that's huge for someone in his position. i think when it comes to those issues. he's going to listen to jared, but when it comes to the more domestic issues, he might be more inclined to listen to steve bannon. >> i think the person riding high tonight in the sort of trump sphere is whoever said pick gorsuch. today, that was a victory for him. >> yeah, oh, i mean, it's a clear victory all the way through. i mean, they picked somebody who could be confirmed with wide republica...

Supposed to. >> anne, francesca, anne mentioned the idealogical impact when one wins over the other. when you look at what happened in syria, the president waw aggressive in syria. the threat is jared kushner is much more of a globalist, and steve bannon is more let's take care of things at home. >> the things steve bannon wanted came first. the travel ban, health care. while they didn't go well, they were at the top of donald trump's list. that's one way to look at it. >> that hurts steve bannon, though. if they had gone well, he would be riding high. >> but it also shows how much donald trum...