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Do you see the president as a uniter? >> it was an improvement over mitt romney, mr. milquetoast softy. >> romney is going to win in utah. he is running hard. >> lost in 2012. >> he's going to be an able representative. well, fine. but listen, jason, part of the reason donald trump won was not only because he was a divider but because he had 16 other republicans, traditional republicans who embraced traditional values who were stepping all over each other. i'm not sure if it had been a one-on-one or a one on two that would have happened. it's a theoretical question, a hypothetical, but of cour...

>> who isn't? yeah, for apple pie and puppies. >> we have a legit policy difference. here's the disconnect, is that certain republican leaders thought that you could never talk about tariffs. you could never talk about standing up for america. but what trump has done is connecting with people, and again, not just even the republican base. we're talking people in blue states and purple states of pennsylvania, michigan, the other places where trump put together this winning trump coalition. and he was able tonect with them. >> jason, first of all, let's not overstate his reach because he lost th...

Difference here that i would point out that i don't think ana is quite grasping here. a lot of candidates went into believing in their minds they had one set notion of where the republican base was. as we got into that summer of 2015, what every other candidate not named donald trump realized is that they were wrong on these issues of immigration and on trade, and it was donald trump who is the one who actually connected with them, so was th between the party elites, the jeb bushes o the world, the marco rubios of theworld. and actual grassroots activists who are theonservativ driving the part...

White nationalists. >> thank you very much. keep making your point. >> look, it was truth serum. it was -- i mean, this guy was some sort of just crazy, right? bringing up your deceased father, telling you you're far left. then when he can'tanswer, he starts cackling and laughing because it's his crutch to not being able to own up to his past and his past actions and his past endorsements. it's a sad time. it's a time when we see republicans attracting folks like pedophiles, attracting folks like neonazis. attracting actually some actual nazis that have run and are running as candidates. i wil...

Radical islamic terrorism, where corker is on both trade and on immigration are not at the same spot as where the rest of the republican party is. >> that's not true, jason. a lot of oppn on trade within his own party. they're just n saying anything your party has never been in favor of -- >> hold on. chris, hold on. >> i hear your point.let's get . >> it's changed. it's changed, but corker hasn't. he's woken up and said, whoa, this isn't 2006 anymore. he no longer connects with his constituents. that's why he's leaving so he doesn't lose in the primary to a strong conservative who supports th...