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This descent for 8 minutes and crashed. officials say teams from lufthansa and germanwings will head to the crash site to assist authorities in the investigation. french officials say there are likely no survivors. there you see the general area where the plane crashed. i want to bring back mikey kay, christopher dickey and anthony row main and jay rawlings. i want to start with you, anthony. talk about the a320 it is pretty much run by computers. >> that is correct. and there have been the critics of the a320 fly by wire system. there have been accidents that have been attributed to it. there...

Out of a safe place to be. with terrain like that this could be a very very large debris field indeed. it's not like thinking back to the crash where it crashes in a a tight area and the debris can be recovered quickly. this can be a long drawn out process. >> it was close to nice, which can and does receive a320s all the time. they couldn't do it. bill, thank you for that report. stay with me we're going to be updating this news. i want to go to former commercial pilot jay rollands. he's with us this thunderstorm warning. tell me what you see when you see this large area the plane was going d...

Being man handled by the pilots in certain circumstances. however, a debris field of five miles suggests and i say suggests because it is so early in terms of developing the facts, suggests that there may have been an in flight air frame failure. when we have impact of an aircraft that is in a state of flying into the ground it just does not leave a debris field that wide and that diffuse. i think perhaps the pilots attempted to save the aircraft and overstressed it or perhaps there was an explosive device on the aircraft. those two factors have to be ruled out. >> and jay rawlings joins us an...

>> anthony and jay, i would like to bring you in on the conversation to answer bill's question. >> yes. regarding the possibility of a clear air turbulence doing this i can't think of any crashes off the top of my head either, and if that had happened and caused such damage that they were unable to fly the aircraft it was -- now you're saying coming down faster than we thought, maybe 4,000 feet a minute. that being the case i am still wondering about the debris field. was it actually five miles or five acres? we've got a little confusion there. >> and it is not as large. right now, you know wh...

Anthony row main and jay rawlings, let's continue the conversation. the fact that mikey, it was now apparently not 10 or 12 minutes as initially reported probably 8 minutes between the moment that plane got to cruising altitude, lost that cruising altitude altitude, and 8 minutes later went into part of the alps. at no time was anyone on board communicating with the ground. >> no. and i think the two big things that come out of that are first, there was no rt call radio transmission, may day or pan put out. and secondly when you look at the time taken for the descent to occur, around 8 minutes...