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Sec low and area sarah sanders or they lied to us. it is not a crime to lie to the american press or the american people. but it is a crime to lie under oath. the statement that the president dictateed wildly misleading in itself saying the trump tower meeting was largely about adoption when the reason it was set up in the first place was to get dirt on hillary clinton from the russians. but what is is stoupbding today is rudy guiliani's explanation for all of this. >> our recollection keeps changing. >> our recollection keeps change something are you suggesting someone forgot something? what ...

Sec low. there's chaos inside the president's legal counsel. >> they think the president doesn't always take their advice. so that's a frustrating experience. what does it mean the fact that it is down to jay sec low. >> he is a smart lawyer, specializing in the first amendment rights of religious organizations which is important, having almost nothing to do with with criminal law. what he needs is a lawyer with is experience in criminal law. he still doesn't have is one. it is an extraordinary spectacle to see the president reduced to legal zoom on who is going to represent him. i don't think...

Legal team. the president currently has ty cobb, john dowd, jay sec ewe low, joseph digenova advising in the russia case. robert costa reported they'd reached out to high-powered defense lawyer ted olson to join them but olsen declined. i am joined by the aforementioned robert costa, "washington post." moderator of "washington week" on pbs. and jeremy peters is back with us, political reporter for "the new york times." both msnbc analysts. robert, we'll start with you. mr. olsen is a fairly well-known attorney in this country, he was part of the legal dream team along with david boies that arg...

Respect to trying to restrain the media from publishing this because "60 minutes" is not even a party to this contract. so, they could then perhaps sue in damages if there is such a damage claim but i think the gambit of suing in court from restrain her from speaking is silly. she'll then to get put on her case which says, essentially, it's true what i'm having to say and that overcomes their efforts to get a prior restraint. it's a losing proposition for them where they proceed this way. >> michael, other legal news over the weekend. kaitlan collins telling us the story where the president me...

Security adviser has entered a plea deal with the special counsel's office. do you still believe that this investigation is wrapping up soon? >> we would refer you to the comments by ty cobb that he indicated as such as in the past few days. >> if robert mueller ends up looking into the president's finances or has already looked into the president's fninances, does the white house believe that's a red line and if so why? >> i think it's important to note, and hopefully you guys have seen this statement, that jay sec a low confirmed that the news reports of the special counsel had subpoenaed fi...