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Not something that ends his presidency. >> eric: if in fact president obama did know about it and he going on national television and says i learned about the way you did, on tv. >> andrea: he as comfortable time trade he is incompetent. 80% of the time they talk about obamacare and 118 meetings, what do they talk about rest of rest of time. basketball? what were they talking about in these executive meetings? i think what is most troubling, as jay seculo, he is frequent guest on and he is about to file ten more lawsuits of groups saying they are still being targeted by the irs. irs says they ...

News. will he take the responsibility. >> i was not the person involved with the decision. i was recused in that matter. i don't know what happened with the interaction between the a.p. and justice department. i was recused from the case. i don't have a factual basis to answer the questions because i was recused. i don't know what has happened in this matter. >> eric: just like his boss. he can't be blamed. he was kept in the dark about his own department's actions, how convenient. when playing dumb isn't enough, you have to flee the scene of the crime. that is what secretary of state hillary ...

National security implication is there but in both cases is an overreach. >> eric: president obama delivered an hour long speech on counter terror. timing kind of stinks to me. 300 million will be in backyard probably talking about the scandals. does president obama is going chase this down a hole and not talk about it this weekend? >> i don't know what he thinks. the polls indicate that most americans aren't following it especially not the benghazi story. irs story that jay and i are getting most attention. fox poll this week had about third of americans aware that concerned about it. the key...

National security implication is there but in both cases is an overreach. >> eric: president obama delivered an hour long speech on counter terror. timing kind of stinks to me. 300 million will be in backyard probably talking about the scandals. does president obama is going chase this down a hole and talk about it this weekend? >> i don't know what he thinks. the polls indicate that most americans aren't following it especially not the benghazi story. irs story that jay and i are getting most attention. fox poll this week had about third of americans aware that concerned about it. the key iss...

>> you don't have that name either? >> i will be glad to provide those names. >> let him answer the question. >> mr. -- >> the washington state's time. >> who did you ask? >> i asked the senior technical advisor. >> and what's the senior technical advisor's name? >> nannies marks. >> what did nancy tell you? who is responsible? >> by that i don't remember to be honest with. >> you you don't remember again? >> megyn: who was responsible? simple question. asked repeatedly of the acting irs commissioner this morning. no answers provided. jay seculo is the chief counsel for the american law and ju...