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Up to donald trump against torture. We have a very clear position on torture. We do not sanction torture. We do not get involved with that and will continue to be our position. And moments ago the Mexican President announcing that his meeting planned for next week with President Trump has been canceled. We are on the same page with the white house. How surprised are you every time there is a new tweet from the president . This is going to be an unconventional presidency, i think you know this by now casy. And i think we are going to see unconventional activities like tweets and thats just some...

This from the past as well that thatcher really made her mark by goingp against the coal miners in the uk. and done -- and ronald reagan, the pivotal moment was his firing of the air traffic controllers after that union strike, a public union strike. and that really sent a signal. in fact many people said a signal to the russians that he was somebody to deal with, that he was so tough he would fire his own air traffic controllers. jean? >> absolutely. absolutely. donald trump said over and over again he wants to be a strong leader and he wants the world to look at america in a different way be...

Fillmore presented himself but that we've seen in sort of the modern political era. >> speaking of the modern political era -- i was going to say, jean, we've got the -- the seal is on the podium now. we have got the pel prompters. i see the travel pool is in the room. at any moment we might be interrupting, but jean go ahead. >> just a brief point. there has been a lot of action, that is very true. and there have been a lot of pictures and a lot of headlines, but so far not very much has actually change that is the harder part that lies ahead. most of these events have been photo ops where he...