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Victory for phil murphy to try to prevent a political disaster in 2022. joining me now, kimberly atkins, and jeff bason. kim, speak ere pelosi, her inability to pass the big legislation had on virginia on terry mccauliffe's loss. >> i have not seen all of the analysis and i know from my own experience that the, the anecdote is not data. let's see what the data is as it comes out. the more results we can produce in a way that people understand in their lives the better it is.

And so far despite the majority on capitol hill, he has not developed as promised. what role do donald trump. what do you think he's go to be doing going forward in virginia? >> certainly, andrea, he's crowing about the results in virginia. but this is not the decision for trump. he remains very popular in certain parts. and youngkin won in virginia in part by creating some distance between himself and former president trump. so that's probably a model that many republicans running in the midterms next year go are going to try to follow and replicate. >> thanks for phil, kimberly and jeff. a...