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What's happening right here with meadows. meadows has got this fuzzy connection of executive privilege. that isn't what they held him in contempt over. they held him in contempt over information that there is no executive privilege. and he just defied them. he played with them. he didn't show up. he was very contemptuous in his behavior. so i think -- i would weigh it very heavily in terms of justice going forward and prosecuting. >> in many respects meadows' case is weaker than bannon's because meadows actually gave over some material and then pulled back. >> and wrote a book. >> and wrote a ...

Legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeff, this is a big deal? >> it's a very big deal, but it's not a surprise. it's a basic principle of libel law, is if cnn puts mr. a on the air and mr. a says mr. b is a child molester, mr. b sues us, we can't say oh, well, it was just mr. a who said that, we were just the transmission. that's what this case is about. fox said no, we didn't say that dominion is corrupt, the people we interviewed said that. the judge said first of all, some of these people, tucker carlson, maria bartiromo, lou dobbs among others, some of those did say that dominion was corrupt. bu...