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That's a nightmare. meanwhile, you've got jeff weaver threatening to bring the temple down on his own head. what is wrong with all these people? >> get rid of -- charlie brings up an important point. the notion that the dnc has its thumb on the scale for hillary sxlrngs just on t clinton, and just optically, setting this sort of right or wrong crime and punishment thing, set that aside for a moment. az astrategist here, do you think this is the right call? given the narrative that is established. >> well, look, there is a serious data breach. there's no question about that. and you've got to d...

And that's how they realized, somebody realized at first that it happened. we fired one of them. we're investigating. when we determine what happened with the other ones, we may take other disciplinary action. but that is not an excuse for the dnc to issue a death sentence on the sanders campaign. the data they have withheld from us is data that is paid for by the 2 million individual contributions that we have received averaging less than $30 apiece. that is data that has been secured by our volunteers and staff going door to door and calling people in iowa and new hampshire, and the dnc has ...

Campaign. certainly this campaign schedule has been widely discussed. very few debates. many on nights when a lot of people aren't going to be watching. now we see certainly there was a problem. the dnc's firewall failed miserably. this is the equivalent of debbie wasserman schultz walking by the desks of my staff and throwing files of clinton materials on their desks. they should not have opened them and looked at them. that's absolutely the case. that does not meet our high standards. and certainly we have fired one staffer, we are looking at some others. but let's be clear. we had a few 20-...

Who likes brinksmanship, who did not want to shut down the government. but 9 other thing is i think paul ryan would really like to coast for a year and so would a lot of other republicans in congress. they think they have a decent shot of taking back the presidency next year. they know if they have unified control of government they can implement their agenda without having to get a democrat to agree with it, so why pick a big fight now when you can maybe just get it done in a year. and furthermore, i think republicans, conservative republicans in congress trust paul ryan when he says look, i ...

Dnc's handling of data security from the beginning of the campaign until now. >> jeff weaver with the bernie sanders campaign. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. much more on the battle between the dnc and the sanders campaign coming up next. plus why republicans say donald trump has gone too far. well, at least the latest reason why people are saying donald trump went too far. and later a look at everything president obama has accomplished just in the year 2015 and everything he says he still has yet to do. >> and i plan on doing everything i can with every minute of every day...