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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20170415:22:17:00

My next guest says there needs to be an important follow-up question, is that necessarily a bad thing? this is an even more important conversation given reports steve bannon s job could be in jeopardy. jeffery sonnenfeld a dean and professor at the yale school of management and wrote a provocative and popular essay on this subject for politico titled trump s white house, is a family business, that s not a bad thing. and he joins me now. jeffery, thanks for being back on the program. why is this not necessarily a bad thing? thanks, michael. good to be back with you. the bumper, the clip that you had just coming in to this segment i thought really raised the issue sa terically. steven cole berth saying it s been a busy few mornings, president trump goes to work, rolls up his sleeves and gives jared kushner a new job. one of the complaints, a family role job and one calling him a shadow secretary of state and with really broad duties and people don t understand the ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20170414:03:55:00

Were brought up through churches and through activism. and they were about making people s lives safer and better. and what mr. trump is doing on health care is a boardroom tactic. it s smart. it s politics. but i don t see the comparison at all. jeffrey, i ll give you the last word on this. i see the comparison with everything you ve said. the american revolution stopped the british government in its tracks. it upended things. think the boston tea party. so too the civil war. so too did countless other movements that is the point that is the objective. the strategy is an old one. dr. king used it. he was not the first. he won t be the last. he hasn t been the last. people in the pro-life movement try and use this by shutting down abortion clinics. the objectives is to so disrupt that you get the other side to negotiate to an immigrant. that s the objective of the strategy no matter who uses it. jeffery, you haven t listened to anything we said. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20170414:04:37:00

He was quite deliberate about it. quite deliberate and effective. and i was a teenager, and i thought he was right on. totally right on. i supported him 100%. to put a button on how intellectually dishonest this and how your perverting his legacy, dr. martin luther king said of all the forms of unequality or injustice, inequality in health is the most shocking and inhumane. so please understand dr. martin luther king and all his contexts. and to bring his name up of on the eve of when we bombed syria, on the eve of when we drop bombs in afghanistan. this man who was a pacifist, this man who fought for peace is beyond the pale, jeffery. and i hope you have empathy so we can understand this. bakari, what he was fighting against was a democratic party that was created as a culture of race from supporting slavery and segregation. those were democrats he was fighting against, bakari. those were democrats. bakari, i want to give you the final thought, then we got to go. for me, ander ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20170414:04:34:00

Trying to find to meet some political promise. i didn t do that, bakari. to meet some political promise is astounding and even more astoundingly absurd. the fact is this, jeffery. in our political discourse, we have to remove these hitler and nazi comparisons. donald trump is not martin luther king jr. we have taken this to a place where it doesn t need to be. and i hope that you re empathetic enough to see how disrespectful this. jeffery, i just don t understand the intellectual idea in the comparison. again, the whole manufacturing a crisis thing. i don t see how they re the same. that s because they re not. if you cause a major crisis in american society, then the society and those people who are causing the crisis but dr. king did not cause a crisis. go ahead. dr. king did not cause a crisis. tom brokaw had an amazing ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20170414:04:31:00

bakari, does that make sense to you? no, i don t think it makes sense to me. i think it s an affront to dr. king s legacy. but what this is future emblematic is. donald trump has ushered in a culture of high intellectualism and ignorance. i think the comparison jeffery made is intellectually disingenuous at best. what we ve seen him do is pervert one of the greatest piece of literature the letter from the birmingham jail. the fact is donald trump is trying to bring democrats to the table to gut a piece of legislation which has ensured many and saved lives. if he is successful many hospitals will close. dr. king, for example, his end game was to get america to confront its racist past and give black citizens equality under the law. you cannot compare the two or juxtapose the two. and further, i have a sincere problem with this because i think people oftentimes think that in our political discourse, somehow ignorance can be ....

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