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That this was appropriate quid pro quo that was actually helping the u.s. foreign policy with regards to ukraine. also i will just say one thing that bill taylor brings next week is that he doesn't have an agenda. he even said in his testimony that he wasn't necessarily against the two channels, the regular and the irregular channel because he thought, hey, if somebody like sondland has a direct connection to the president, maybe this could be helpful. it was only when he realized there were two different objectives with regards to the regular and irregular channels that he started worrying. >...

President may have problems. manafort's allies are saying that the special counsel is trying to push him into a nar ti narrative and he refuses to go there. we'll have to see what the special counsel is. >> jeffrey go leads. >> i think gloria is right. this will be a detailed statement about why paul manafort wasn't telling the truth. it's still unclear whether mueller will file that under seal or not. we may not see that immediately. as for the political backlash. respectfully haven't we learned that no matter what donald trump does, 40% of the public supports it. does anyone think that sean ...

President used to speak about wikileaks and mike pompeo has been speaking ant wi ining abou. >> i love wikileaks. this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. it tells you the inner heart. you got to read it. >> they want to distract us from wikileaks. it's been amazing what's coming out on wikileaks. >> it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is. a nonstate hostile intelligence service embedded by state actors like russia. >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> that was then and this is now. he was encouraging the illegal activity of wikileaks stealing, hacking the democrats e-mails during the 2016 cam...

Policies so they view them as potential voters. >> and that is to enthuz the base and no doubt about that but the core of that is that donald trump is trying desperately to move this conversation from one of all of the images and sound that all of america has heard over the last few days to a conversation about gangs and crime and ms-13. and he's having a hard time breaking through with the other message and his supporters are hearing that and a message that deserves a hearing as well. but it is not breaking through these images right now which is why you see these republicans on capitol hill ...