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Race? >> because it happens a lot. it's happened a whole lot. >> but they're black! >> part of the issue -- >> you think the president and the first lady talk about race a lot? >> i do think he talks about it a lot. i'm not saying it's a bad thing to talk about it some but does it always have to come up? >> always? [ all speak at once ] >> i think sometimes it comes up. >> more than a lot. >> more than it needs to because it's trying to push a wedge. >> when a black person mentions race like one time -- >> tell me why? >> because they're black! [ laughter ] >> it's interesting to me obama ment...

Just beyond belief. martha: you glow back to other controversies over faith that have surfaced in the course of presidential elections and we just have a quick snippet to remind people of jeremiah write and what he sounded like and we'll talk about the controversy that followed all that. >> god bless america, no, no, no, god bless america, not god bless america, goddamn america gee was the pastor of a church that the president attended for a longtime. there was a lot of controversy on whether it was right to go there and talk about the things that reverend wright said. does that fit in with wh...

Like obama or joe ricketts would go down this route. quite frankly it's a way to gin up fears against this president among people who already don't like him and already don't like the fact that, quite frankly, there's an african-american in the white house. >> senator mccain has responded to "the new york times" story. his spokesperson has said senator mccain is proud of the fact he ran in the 2008 campaign and stands by his decision and would make them again if he had to do it all over. this campaign ad is to go out and take president obama in this direction. would that consume the race? forg...

Since lbj, 52% of the votes, he did so with the american people knowing almost all of his background, the background in chicago, the association with jeremiah write, the harvard background, columbia background and-- >> people don't know this. they know the surface. no one who pays $40,000-- >> anybody who watched fox news knew about it. >> nobody who pays $40,000 to send his kid to a university knows what he is dumping his child into in terms of intellectual-- >> they voted for him and did so against with candidate in john mccain who is the embodiment of the kind of traditional american values...

Any other presidential candidate since lbj, 52% of the votes, he did so with the american people knowing almost all of his background, the background in chicago, the association with jeremiah write, the harvard background, columbia background and-- >> people don't know this. they know the surface. no one who pays $40,000-- >> anybody who watched fox news knew about it. >> nobody who pays $40,000 to send his kid to a university knows what he is dumping his child into in terms of intellectual-- >> they voted for him and did so against with candidate in john mccain who is the embodiment of the ki...