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Governor brown will make it work. >> the rich will stay and the poor depend on government, and the middle, upper middle class salaries, they're fleeing to nevada and texas and idaho and arizona. is that the point you're making? >> yeah, i think that's basically what's happening. i mean, then what's happening, what we see in the population profile particularly on the coast, an aging population, not a lot of young people, know the a lot of young families. and l.a. in particular suffered a huge outmigration of families, basically what's happening is we see people coming to california, sometimes w...

Universities, and we have great infrastructure, right on the pacific rim, all the things that should count for an upwardly mobile economy are here and we're gradually destroying it and by the way, i would say that taxes are not the biggest problems. the biggest problem is our regulatory environment enough to drive almost anyone crazy. >> paul: that's regulation on environment, regulation on energy, they have a cap and trade. sate cap and trade program which imposes those burdens on companies in the state even though the rest of the country doesn't have it, briefly, you voted for jerry i brown,...

Universities, and we have great infrastructure, right on the pacific rim, all the things that should count for an upwardly mobile economy are here and we're gradually destroying it and by the way, i would say that taxes are not the biggest problems. the biggest problem is our regulatory environment enough to drive almost anyone crazy. >> paul: that's regulation on environment, regulation on energy, they have a cap and trade. sate cap and trade program which imposes those burdens on companies in the state even though the rest of the country doesn't have it, briefly, you voted for jerry i brown,...

Get the formula, europe is continuing to find. >> still ahead, is california headed down the greek path? and news this week that its debt woes are worsening, will governor jerry brown's solution drive more of the middle class from the golden state? >> i don't like to tax anybody, but you've got to go where the money is. dad, why are you getting that? is there a prize in there? oh, there's a prize, all right. [ male announcer ] inside every box of cheerios are those great-tting little o's made from carefully selected oats that can help lower cholester. is it a superhero? kinda. ♪ of single mi...

You have a facebook, and hewlett packard 30,000 layoffs. the fact is you have very high end success, but the middle class has been hollowing out and at least a decade and frankly, as governor brown said. that's where the inmo is. only how much money you can take from the very rich. they're good at hiding it. as you know, apple has moved a lot of financial reporting to other states and places where they don't have to pay the taxes. and so, you know, the middle class is a sitting duck, the problem is that sitting duck is the key thing that drives the economy. >> with he will, now i want to ask y...