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The girls, the jet setting, women, that's fine. the problem is drugs are not fine. drugs are illegal. and every time you give someone a little line of cocaine that's a felony. give it to another person at the party that's another felony. every time it is a distribution of drugs. is he not clear he could be committing crimes? >> well, i think he's clear about committing crimes. although he hasn't been caught doing it. one of the interesting things -- >> greta: he admits it, doesn't he? >> he admits, you're right. i pushed him farther. i said you know where this road leads charlie it is michael ...

Introspection about his con? it has been making headlines. his conduct is not -- something many would be proud of? >> interesting you ask that. a lot of people wouldn't agree. i'm kind of on the fence. he calls it winning. his lifestyle he thinks is the right way. it is the way a lot of people want to live they just don't want to admit. drug, booze, hot girls, porn stars, jet setting doing weigh wants to do be he calls that winning. whether we think it is or not or unhealthy he loves it and he owns it. you can tell by talking to him he's not going to apologize for any of his behavior. and it i...

The girls, the jet setting, women, that's fine. the problem is drugs are not fine. drugs are illegal. and every time you give someone a little line of cocaine that's a felony. give it to another person at the party that's another felony. every time it is a distribution of drugs. is he not clear he could be committing crimes? >> well, i think he's clear about committing crimes. although he hasn't been caught doing it. one of the interesting things -- >> greta: he admits it, doesn't he? >> he admits, you're right. i pushed him farther. i said you know where this road leads charlie it is michael ...

Introspection about his con? it has been making headlines. his conduct is not -- something many would be proud of? >> interesting you ask that. a lot of people wouldn't agree. i'm kind of on the fence. he calls it winning. his lifestyle he thinks is the right way. it is the way a lot of people want to live they just don't want to admit. drug, booze, hot girls, porn stars, jet setting doing weigh wants to do be he calls that winning. whether we think it is or not or unhealthy he loves it and he owns it. you can tell by talking to him he's not going to apologize for any of his behavior. and it i...

Investor and former car czar for the obama administration steven rattner joins us this morning. we had a busy weekend, steve and i. >> yes, you and steve were jet setting -- >> yes. my husband and i took the kids to see "spider-man." it was squarery. if they tighten it, lit be a hit. it was oversensitizing. didn't i walk into the party trembling? >> what made me tremble was watching "meet the press" and congressman schilling, he seems like a nice guy. >> exceedingly nice. >> very nice family man. >> great story, great small