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Infrastructure to do something like that, it would be useful. >> now, seth, does it prevent though, on the same level you have someone on the list who did something we could have caught, it's unclear if there were any mistakes made, but if you've got so many lists coming out of the u.s. government that you become a slave to the list. i'm only going to look at the list, then miss somebody that's not on the list. the list can be bad both ways. >> that's a very good point. i think part of the issue that we have with this case is especially if there were some family members that were aware of radi...

Like that, it would be useful. >> now, seth, does it prevent though, on the same level you have someone on the list who did something we could have caught, it's unclear if there were any mistakes made, but if you've got so many lists coming out of the u.s. government that you become a slave to the list. i'm only going to look at the list, then miss somebody that's not on the list. the list can be bad both ways. >> that's a very good point. i think part of the issue that we have with this case is especially if there were some family members that were aware of radicalization, what is our communi...

It's unclear if there were any mistakes made, but if you've got so many lists coming out of the u.s. government that you become a slave to the list. i'm only going to look at the list, then miss somebody that's not on the list. the list can be bad both ways. >> that's a very good point. i think part of the issue that we have with this case is especially if there were some family members that were aware of radicalization, what is our community engagement strategy like, especially with law enforcement and muslim communities, for example. we've seen in several cases with a alexandria five in virg...

Where is there are copycats and this mode of terror attack is becoming frequent, obviously requires training to do these kinds of attacks. that's the first point i'd make. the second point if you're to look at what are the cast of potential kind of perpetrators of this attack in spain. obviously, a basque terrorist pob, eta, acquiescent for some time and also a jihadist problem. i observed that spain has not had the same level of problem we've seen in france or belgium, even countries like germany or the united kingdom. i mean, i'm hard pressed to think of a jihadi terrorist attack since the 2...

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