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Jihadist side. many people may not have realized the threat it posed. there was the entire first attack on the trade center building in '93 that killed six people. and then in 1997, bin laden declared war on the united states for the first time at the time, not enough people paid attention to it you had this right wing kind of extremist terrorist kind of theme that was going on and then you have this gathering threat from jihadist terrorism that would ultimately culminate with 9/11, but gathering steam throughout the '90s. >> you were talking about the u.s. embassies talking in tanzania and ke...

Sense in islamic community there is too much pressure on tamerlan's wife. she is not accused of committing any wrongdoing. why imply or infer she knew about this. >> it's two points. no one made the call. and we found out when tamerlan went to russia he got in touch with people on jihadist side who were radicalizing him. a boxer from canada went to russia and got killed. so that is now part of the investigation. that is what happened. >> michael, the president when he addressed it, he talked about the self radicalization.

Sense in islamic community there is too much pressure on tamerlan's wife. she is not accused of committing any wrongdoing. why imply or infer she knew about this. >> it's two points. no one made the call. and we found out when tamerlan went to russia he got in touch with people on jihadist side who were radicalizing him. a boxer from canada went to russia and got killed. so that is now part of the investigation. that is what happened. >> michael, the president when he addressed it, he talked about the self radicalization.

Sense in islamic community there is too much pressure on tamerlan's wife. she is not accused of committing any wrongdoing. why imply or infer she knew about this. >> it's two points. no one made the call. and we found out when tamerlan went to russia he got in touch with people on jihadist side who were radicalizing him. a boxer from canada went to russia and got killed. so that is now part of the investigation. that is what happened. >> michael, the president when he addressed it, he talked about the self radicalization.

With two explosions with a targeting of civilians only, this wasn't a federal building or military base. domestic and foreign could have done this. if you take the extremists, if you take a unibomber, mono bomber, can't do it but home-grown jihadists and they can do it. the difference who is practicing this the most? we've heard many guests, we've many read many reports but this has been done in pakistan and other areas. it's not sophisticated, but on the other hand those that have been trained are mostly on the jihadist side. >> greta: it's sort of like convict by odds. who is the most likely...