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A spokesman for manafort says its 100 false to suggest this meeting including any discussion of contributions to the Trump Campaign or the Republican Party. When donald trump jr. Talked about the meeting he called it nothing and manafort said he was on his phone most of the time. The whole contact took how long . 20 minutes or so. 20 minutes. And jared left after five or ten. Yes. Like she said and paul manafort. On his phone. The whole time. Like i said it was pretty apparent this is not what we were in there talking about. It does appear manafort was on his phone to take notes. Nbcs reportin...

You are. well, there are a whole lot of people, especially people in rural communities, there's no kinkos, there's no office max near them. of course, people have to prove who they are but not in a way that makes it almost impossible for them to prove who they are. ashley: joining me now to discuss are two texas rancher owners. jill let and robert smith. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. ashley: you heard vp harris talk about how people who live in rural areas, they don't have kinkos or any place to go and make copies of anything. can you guys explain a li...

Go forward. the interesting thing will be when does new information that moves our understanding of what happened changed? it's one thing learning about a subpoena or someone being interviewed. it's another thing when we learn of actually new information about things that we didn't know. and sometimes we're able to do that. and sometimes we're able to break through and provide new context to things sometimes we don't. but i think this will go on some sometime now. >> jill, to michael's point, the pressure that has been brought to bear on paul manafort, his business associates, his family, ther...

Move for a prosecutor to take, especially at a time when manafort said or was trying to say publicly that he was cooperating. so i think what we are seeing a a lot of -- a lot of things here. we'll see a lot more of this in the weeks and months to come. the president is going to have a lot of stories come out about subpoenas, about interviews, about people going before the grand jury, and there is just going to be a lot of these as we go forward. the interesting thing will be when does new information that moves our understanding of what happened changed? it's one thing learning about a subpoe...

Ratings are down. making themselves vulnerable while having a civil war between owners and comirg. aption ains send us your comments. what do you think. steve: a lot of football on thanksgiving. do you plan to watch football this year? college football or nfl, let us know. ainsley: college football. that's the way to go. i grew up in south carolina where we didn't have an nfl team. panthers came later and i still support them. we were college. everyone in our state. this weekend is the big game. clemson and carolina. jill let's get you caught up on your headlines starting with a fox news alert...