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So for brennan to make this decision, it's extraordinary in many ways because he is breaking with tradition amonll of his for colleagues agree with his tone, his approach, the personal nature of his attacks against the president. it's controversial within his community of retired professional. he felt to do it because he felt people had to speak out and he thought that his experience and his credibility would help kind of inform the public about what he saw as dangerous behavior on the part of trump. but it certainly is not a practice that's broadly accepted or endorsed by his former colleague...

Ways again, i think that that's just because we see how far john -- how deeply worried john brennan actually is. that for someone like john brennan, for someone like jim clapper, someone like admiral mcraven to be saying the things that they're doing, you know, mcraven out there last week with the op-ed saying please revoke my security clearance, too, just so it's super clear i'm against your presidency because i think you're dangerous and you're harming american relationships around the world. that's extraordinary. and that's not just the same as some republican strategist or democratic strat...

To that point. just yesterday you noted and i think this is so important, you wanted to point out to people that the public statements of support, albeit qualified support for john brennan and his right to say what he's saying from the likes of clapper, hay den and others in the intelligence community, this is very unusual and should be noted, correct, garrett? >> exactly. adam mentioned this norm that these intelligence professionals don't speak out on partisan issues like this. we spent so much time talking about the president breaking his norms that it's really worth spending some time emph...

Here to this discussion. another one of the enemies list, is mike hayden, and i would point out that mike's been out of the government for nine years, he has nothing to do with the russia investigation, in no way has he been able to beneficially touch that, so that just illustrates how political really this list is. and it's particularly egregious with bruce orr. >> jim clapper, thank you. coming up, breaking news out of colorado. charges have been filed in the deaths of a pregnant woman, and her two young daughters. who was charged and what officials are saying. the temperature that is ri...

Great to see both of you. sean, you worked with james clapper. when you hear about what micro so soft has flagged, there was another attempted hacking attack on these various websites. interestingly, fancy bear, which is what one of these hacking -- russian hacking organizations calls themselves, this is one of the organizations that was indicted by robert mueller. they don't seem to have been cowed by this since they're still attempted the same level of attacks. so where do you think we are? >> right. that's what the intelligence community has been saying for a long time with regard to whethe...