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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220111 08:01:00

the bipartisan committee investigating january 6th, the republican from ohio has signaled that he will refuse to speak to the committee after it requested his testimony last month. quote, the american people are tired of democrats nonstop investigations and partisan witch hunts. this request is for outside the bounds of any legislative inquiry. violated poor constitution principles and would served to for the road legislative norms. jordan, i should know, served as the top republican on the oversight committee on the benghazi investigation. one of the many committees that was part of the nonstop, you might even called, partisan witch hunt that ran for more than two years. but this letter marks a very different position for jim jordan. who said multiple times last year that he had nothing to hide from the committee. including during a hearing of the house rules committee last october. are you willing to tell the select committee what you know about events leading up to here and after

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220111 08:36:00

house constant became ground zero for the big lie. and she joins me now. roof, i wonder, do you feel the same way about johnson, who to me, i think about on the democratic side there s like sharon brown or jon tester. two good examples. these are pretty progressive senators, in contested states. they are sort of better politics than you might anticipate, given how close their states are. and johnson is like the inverse of. that he is far worse politics, then you would anticipate. based on how close the state of wisconsin is. yes. as a result, he s given a lot of republicans or heard attack. not only are democrats excited to run against him. republicans will say privately, they really hoped he would not run. they had some other people who are a little more normal that they had in. mind a congressman from green bay, mike gallagher, who s personable, presents, well seems kind of moderate.

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220111 08:12:00

conversation can really speak to what went on. so, we obviously would like him to come in. but his decision not to is not surprising. because i assume that he reached the compulsion that if he came and told the truth it would put him at odds with the former president. and he just doesn t have the courage to do that. i want you to respond to the iqs a shun that is leveled by jordan and others that this is a violation of legislative norms by asking for voluntary cooperation from fellow members of congress in the course of an inquiry. that it is reckless, you ve cross some threshold that you re going to regret crossing. the most recent precedent was in the russian investigation. during the time, as i recall, when nunes was the chairman i think that s right we had an extended invitation to two members of congress.

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220111 08:04:00

incentives for jordan to comply. in the year following january six, donald trump has managed to successfully control the party back to his side. on the question of whether it is okay to do a coup or not. and he mentions that the insurrection is other than a normal tourist visit, or any reputation of donald trump s big lie election fraud are met with swift condemnation from the former president and his base and right-wing media. it is why the committee will likely not see any meaningful cooperation from most allies. even as it becomes more clear that jim jordan, as well as are not definitely the only two seeding members that could be, quote, material witness to the investigation. generous six committee is now also weighing whether or not to seek testimony from mo brooks of alabama. brooks we know was involved because he was one of the most vocal opponents from the stolen election. and is now the subject of a lawsuit from congressman, eric swalwell, who alleges that he

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20220111 08:02:00

it s worth mentioning that jordan probably does have something to hide. or at least looks likely that he. does come mccarthy allegedly wanted jordan himself to serve on the january six committee, named him of the committee, and then speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, basically said no way. and vetoed it. shortly thereafter, republican congresswoman, liz cheney, the vice chair of that committee, called jim jordan a material witness to the investigation. and jordan has mentioned on multiple occasions that he spoke to donald trump on january six. though he refuses to discuss when exactly those conversations took place. here is how we responded back in july when asked about it. yes or no, did you speak with president trump on january six? yes, i spoke with the president last week. i speak with the president all the time. i spoke with him on january six. i mean, i talk with president trump all the time. i don t think that is unusual. i would expect members of congress to talk with

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