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The dogs loved it and it worked. why not try that? >> well, that's the thing. we he you know, we're we've been in the trenches with these rats, tucker, and watching these rats, the intelligence behind them, wetelligence brought in d. we've done we've we brought in snakes. we have brou have done everythi two steps ahead of them.tw o stit can't just be dogs. it can't just be cats. it has to be a lot of differentt situations. so you havioe to taknse a struce . you have to look atfestat the infestation or even the city, and you've gotioave to really look at it to where. okay, what do we need here?...

Need to fightr the real enemy . new york city's relentless rat population. does that sound like a plan for success? we thought we would check with the experts. dave shoki. jim shoki would know. they are twins. they're professional rat catchers. catchers. twin home their business is called twin home experts. and we are honored to have them on the show tonight. than k you both. i'm going to pick at random, jim , will this work? yes. i mean, when it comes to ratting and exterminating rats, tucker, it's you've got to start somewhere. but what's going to be crucialer is that you've got to be two st...