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On a debate stage during a jn election. rehe refused to say he would respect the outcome of the election. now -- make no mistake, make no mistake, my friends, this poses a direct threat to our democracy. >> let's talk more about this with jay newton small and ron brownstein, at the atlantic and senior media analyst bill carter. good to see all of you. ron, you first, is this recount sour grapes and is it logical? >> well, it's being driven -- most important point it's not being driven by the clinton campaign in the first instance much as they pointed out in the blog post they would not have la...

Because let's remember, that it was what, six months ago that pundits were saying that newt gingrich's candidacy was over, he was toast and stick a form in him and this, the fact that three different people have won three different primaries, it's historic and it's a game changer. >> the areas where we thought that mitt romney was going to win big in myrtle beach he lost by 15 points and greenberg and mike emanuel was at a polling site. what were you hearing and what was the mood there? >> reporter: fascinating talking to folks here in columbia and a lot of people seemed to like gingrich's app...

Moderate independents, period. moderate independents. that's scares the people that don't have a home or undecided or would vote for a mitt romney. he can win a jn election and perry cannot win a general he election. >> and people say like what-- and bob does, too, so what is so scary about it? >> they steal votes. >> steal votes from what? >> from independents? from-- >> the policy and policy-- >> he can get independent moderate vote-- >> one thing on the perry immigration ad, i think we should point out there was a fact check by kessler, they pushed back and governor christie is going to giv...

Moderate independents, period. moderate independents. that's scares the people that don't have a home or undecided or would vote for a mitt romney. he can win a jn election and perry cannot win a general he election. >> and people say like what-- and bob does, too, so what is so scary about it? >> they steal votes. >> steal votes from what? >> from independents? from-- >> the policy and policy-- >> he can get independent moderate vote-- >> one thing on the perry immigration ad, i think we should point out there was a fact check by kessler, they pushed back and governor christie is going to giv...