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Nation. >> you make an argument it's the lowest in the nation based upon the test scores. i would say that ours can get better but i would say -- >> your predecessors the unions have been saying that for years. >> i think the unions have a strong history of advocating for high quality education. >> but not achieving it. >> our test scores are something can he choose not to focus on. >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eye. >> the protestors had celebrity support. matt damon. he was asked about the rules that make it hard to fire a union teacher. >> in acting there isn't job sec...

Are learning anything if you don't test them and compare? >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eyes. >> the protestors had celebrity support. actor matt damon he was asked about the rules that make it hard to fire a union teacher. >> in acting there is job security. why isn't it like that for teachers? >> you think job insect makes me work hard? >> you have an incentive to work harder. >> it's not an incentive. you take this nba style thinking. >> nba style? this is a school idea. >> well, yes. charter schools, vouchers even obama's race to the top are based on ideas that compet...