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About two and a half,000 on a watch list who were trying to travel to the u.s. of those people, though, you can see where this goes. most of them were trying to fly by air. they weren't picked up but rather turned away. and again, not only is that not the mexico border, but those people if you're interested in the facts are not automatically terrorists either. let's bring back in john and gene. john, take it away. >> well, you've just scratched the surface there. but you did a good job scratching it. there are so many lies you can't keep track of them. i guess the biggest one that sort of enco...

Suspected terrorists a day coming across our border and we have to be able to stop this. >> that is also not exactly true. the military times reporting it's a misrepresentation of a dhs report which found there are about 2,500 encounters worldwide. of those people, though, you can see where this goes, most of them were trying to fly by air so they weren't picked up or rather turned away and again not only was that not the mexico border but those people are not automatically terrorists either. john, take it away. >> well, you just scratched the surface there, which you did a good job scratching...

True. the military times reporting it's a misrepresentation of a dhs report which found there are about 2,500 encounters worldwide. of those people, though, you can see where this goes, most of them were trying to fly by air so they weren't picked up or rather turned away and again not only was that not the mexico border but those people are not automatically terrorists either. john, take it away. >> well, you just scratched the surface there, which you did a good job scratching it. there are so many lies you can't keep track of them. i guess the biggest one that

Is the rightful owner. joining me now is former prosecutor jonna spilbor and fox news analyst lis weihl. this is straight out of a law school essay. let me start with you, jonna. who wins. buyer of the ticket in the woman who found it in the dumpster or the store manager? >> i'm representing the original purchaser and here is why. i'm looking at this as if this lotto ticket in the garbage, a million dollar winner did not get there on purpose. so there is a duty to try to ascertain the original purchaser. she didn't scratch enough. she didn't do her job scratching. >> she shouldn't get a penny ...