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>> shepard: how is the defense reacting to this? >> well, it's interesting. there is a gag order in this case. prosecutors have been very tight-lipped, not really saying much as they come and go from the court. jack mcmahan, gosnell's defense attorney has been chatty with reported and is careful not are cross the lines of the gag or bud reminds us, this was a lengthy trial, dozens of witnesses by the prosecutions' they have a lot to consider. we asked him how he feels about the fact the jury is in it's eighth day of deliberations. >> in reality, when you think about it, there's five different ...