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This is my -- this is where i live. >> bailey is also allowed out of his cell once a day for an hour of recreation in an enclosed yard. >> you know, why is it important to keep someone like this segregated? he seems to be a sociable kind of guy. >> a lot of sociopaths are. a lot of jocco's problems are substance abuse related. that leads to other problems, such as violence in the institution. that's why he is where he is. it's not like he hasn't been in the open population. he has been, but he hasn't been successful. >> i've stabbed offenders for snitching. i've had drug activities. i've organ...

>> this is my la-z-boy. my chair. sitting in the cell for years and years and years will mess your back up because these steel beds and through the years people jump up and down on them, so it makes them uneven and gives you back problems for the rest of your life. and that's it. this is my home. this is my -- this is where i live. >> bailey is also allowed out of his cell once a day for an hour of recreation in an enclosed yard. >> why is it important to keep someone like this segregated? he seems to be just a sociable kind of guy. >> sure. a lot of sociopaths are. a lot of his problems are s...

>> one of the most intense things our "lockup" field crew encounters when they go inside a maximum security prison is conducting interviews with murderers, sitting five, six feet away from a very violent offender. but more often than not, they leave those conversations feeling like they just talked to somebody that's just a normal, everyday guy. >> when our crew went behind the 40-foot walls of indiana state prison, they had ample opportunity to meet killers among the 2,000 inmates that are incarcerated there. >> the number one charge at this facility is murder. approximately 70% of the offend...

There are reports of avalanches in the mt. everest region. the quake was felt as far away as lapor, pakistan. a magnitude 7.9 quake has hit the city of kathmandu. the quake has given us extensive damage in the area. now it's back to "lockup." >> one of those offenders is jocco bailey. at age 16 he received a 40-year sentence for murder. >> i was selling marijuana. two older guys wanted to buy some weed. when they seen i was young, i guess they figured they could take the weed. they figured wrong because i was carrying a weapon. it was a gun fight. one of the guys ended up dead.

>> but bailey says there's a practical side to his behavior. >> prison is a delicate balance. some guys here are never going home. and for those of us who are, if we lose our edge one bit, then, like wolves, your own could turn on you, right? being in this environment, i've had to become and to be a predator in order to avoid being prey. >> finding appropriate housing for convicted killers who have continued their violent ways behind bars is always a challenge. a fact dramatically illustrated during our visit to kern valley state prison in california. >> it's always work, work, work. >> when w...