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james comey. plus the debt ceiling hostage situation was not a lesson about bipartisanship as many have suggested. i will tell you what my takeaway was. also today, the supposed pro business anti counsel culture right wing is acting pretty anti business and pro cancel culture lately. a looks putting that in just a few minutes. and later, a trip to pennsylvania for an afternoon with one of the country's most high-profile political spouses, gisele fetterman. we talk about her childhood as an undocumented immigrant, her husband battle with depression and the spaces she commit created to...

Hard. but then i remember thinking oh my god, maybe they don't want to be here. and that was a hard reality because i felt very american. >> >> another fact about you that surprised me is you are also a volunteer firefighter. >> so that was a childhood dream i was the oldest person at the academy. i was the academy mom. it was the first of all is the oldest person in a room, there was very cool to experience that shift. but i showed my kids, i told them to pursue their dreams. >> we're leaving the free store -- >> some have said that driving with me is an adventure. >> joe driving with me simi...