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Trump basically is not as ideological as some might like but at tend he's a pragmatic businessman. he has idea that will work with congress and will get a loan done if he basically works closely with them and i think he will. heather: bringing people jobs, bringing companies back here to america. joe, what do you think? >> well, look, he's absolutely going to be about change. look, you've got to give him credit for that. this is a guy who literally demolished the establishments in both parties and beat two of the biggest accomplishment dynasties of both parties, the bush dynasty and clinton dy...

The congress, republican congress had had a lot of things they wanted to do and the critical thing here is he has to feel like it's working and the economy work out for the michigans, ohios, the pennsylvanias that go vote for him. two years from now they have to appeal their logic better. the critical thing is he's not a guy driven by ideaology, he's been a democrat and now republican. heather: flexibility being the key. joe, what do you think about that? >> i think ed is right, part of that is -- look, we all were watching as the dow went from, you know, 10,000 to 19,000. heather: almost 20,0...

Places where ed was talking about didn't feel any of that and now we are calling the trump rally to 20,000, can he deliver change, economic improvement to those people who are not -- they didn't take part in this rally and they didn't take part in it. that's where i think ed is right. can pragmatism, can that actually lead to change in the ground in terms of people's opportunities and jobs f he can deliver this, then or sell it, then i think that's going to be very important. if he can't it's just going to look like billionaires and millionaires worrying for themselves and i'm not saying they ...

1780's and you look at the rhetoric that jefferson was told to them by the embassador, interaction in morocco. same thing that i found in mitchell's book, they have the same reason for killing us. very calm, cool calculated, you don't warship, allah, you don't believe in this, according to the way they are reading the quran, they have a right to kill us. john adams said, i don't want to fight these guys an thomas jefferson said, we have no choice but the fight the guys. ultimately we had to show strength. that's what stopped the attack, when i picked up joe mitchell's book, what other noted te...

0 gorillas, and i think she is going to stay in captivity, and even in captivity, you have to socialize them. >> are they going to ease into the animal population, and next thing you know they will go and get a cup of coffee the way they are being raised by humans. >> and texts. we have more on cnn saturday morning, and it starts right now. good morning, i am victor blackwell. >> i am alison kosik. it's 7:00 in the morning. glad you are with us. health officials in oklahoma are offering free hiv and hepatitis tests today to patients of one dentist and oral surgeon. >> they say some of his st...