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Reference. all right? >> i mean, i guess she didn't like -- >> the point i'm trying to make is particularly -- i'm old enough to remember when barry goldwater was said to be nuts. they put out a psychiatrist's report when he ran for president and said that he was, a, bordering on being crazy, and he was also -- but this is what happens to conservatives. all the time -- >> jeffrey, but he called her crazy. and he called joe psycho and a low iq. i don't understand -- okay, but like -- >> where's the -- >> let her respond. >> i'm suspending the fact that he's president of the united states here. ...

>> he called her crazy and called joe psycho. i'm suspending the fact that he is president of the united states. even if i'm accepting you hit back. fine, you hit back. you don't see any difference in going after a woman and claiming that she -- >> i don't see -- >> i see here as a talk show host. >> it has nothing -- >> that's sectixist. >> you're trying to make it out that some how it's equal for women to be demeaned. >> just like men. >> go ahead. >> but this is who donald trump is. at this point none of us should be surprised. he is someone that thats been accused of sexual assault. >> has...

Cable and tweeting attacks on people. don't you find that slightly unsettling? >> ryan, all i can say, look, do i think he should have done it? no? i think mika and joe should apologize and get the ball rolling. they won't do it because they love to say this stuff. let's move on here, for god's sakes. >> you know, i've heard this all day from people criticizing us in the media for talking about this and move on. we're not the president of the united states who tweeted this out. we're not the ones who -- you know, the move on has to come from the most important person in the world, jeffrey. >> ...