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He said nobody picked up the phone to him - and asked him . a single question. his conclusion was that these guys didn t even read it. - so what s the counterfactual? ifjournalists had written - everything possible criticising qatar s bid, these guys were not interested in evaluatingl the bids on that on that basis, on its merits. . the bids on that - basis, on its merits. they were interested - in what was in it for them. and joey, on the wider point that beth s making about sportsjournalism more broadly, do you think that there is a reluctance to hold power to account at times simply because if you do, you might get barred from that interview with the manager or the interview with the player that you really need to do yourjob. i mean, absolutely. i think there s that constant battle when you re reporting on a club or a player, the access is very important and people want to read interviews and stuff. i think with qatar, it s almost the other way that almost the other way, it s now ....
At rhe athletic, miles coleman, producer and writer of fifa, uncovered a new documentary on netflix, and beth fisher, who s a freelance sports broadcaster. welcome to you all. joey de sao, let s start with you. isjurgen klopp right that journalists dropped the ball on this one when it comes to qatar? no, i don t think he is. i think there s been lots of fantasticjournalism on this. i think you have to look back to the sunday times reporting on the bidding process itself. and there s been countless reporting on human rights including this very interesting documentary, which i m looking forward to watching. it s four years after russia invaded ukraine, and then, you know, the world cup. i think a lot of the very good human rights reporting was forgotten when the football started. and then look what happened. i think people are kind of determined not to make the same mistake. 0k. beth fisher, what s your view? i mean, is it a legitimate criticism, do you think, from jurgen klopp? listen ....
In this industry quite late into my life, and what i ve realised very quickly is that sport is a very small world. and just a bit like politics, my experience is that everyone is kind of embedded with each other and it takes a brave person to call out the people that effectively give you work every day. i ve seen with my own eyes, you know, sports and governing bodies cancel out journalists who ve maybe said the wrong thing. so, has klopp got maybe the right opinion? i would say i don t think he s completely wrong. i think, you know, just like politics, i think sport has a lot to answer for in terms of the journalism that s out there, and basically, who s going out with each other and things like that. so i don t think we can say that we are as innocent as we d like to be. 0k. i mean, miles coleman, joey there was talking about some of the great reporting that s been done, not least the sunday times stuff. there was also the guardian trying to establish how many migrant workers had die ....