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Committed a crime. right and wrong. when somebody talks about, hey, john, you're going down a direction that's a little dangerous, ultimately myself as an educator, when i get up in the morning and have the opportunity to help, it's what i have to do. >> all right. bob, all week -- i want to see what bob has to say after john says that. bob? >> what i want to look at is the bottom line. if you have kids at a camp from the inner city who are learning how to assemble and disassemble a rifle and learning proper safety and shooting and hunting and that sort of thing. i'm not hung up on that. what ...

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More people who he supposedly loved. >> i don't know what would have happened in the javon belcher case, if guns were tougher to get ahold of. but i wish he had had a harder time getting his hand on that gun. >> so we're going to go to break. there's one other aspect of this casey want to talk about. to give you a little love, john, i want to show you a picture on my niece's facebook page on thanksgiving morning. this is my dad to the far right in the orange hat. my nieces and my cousins. this is what they spent thanksgiving morning doing. i'm so afraid that fox news is going to say i'm raisin...

Rock. all of these rights do is to shift the burden on the government to come up with a sufficiently compelling interest in order to override the right that i have. >> it does feel like under almost -- the one problem that happens when we focus on a single case when we're talking about gun control is, then we just start talking about that case. in the case of kassandra perkins, it's almost impossible to imagine from my perspective when we wouldn't allow individuals to have in their own home a licensed handgun, right? it's one thing when we talk about assault weapons and the automatic weapons i...

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